Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. What are some of the most riveting concepts featured in Gödel, Escher, Bach? Why isn’t the Douglas Hofstadter book Gödel, Escher, Bach available as an. Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas R. Hofstadter, , available at Book Depository with free delivery worldwide.

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A Vision, Vocabulary, and Epistemology. It is still valid today, although it did not mention the controversial possibilities of mind uploading mentioned by Hofstaster Minsky and Ray Kurzweil.

However, we cannot logically and mathematically duplicate the informal system of the brain from the formal system. GEB gives a detailed account of how enzymes work on the strands, with typographical manipulations creating new strands. Enjoy the damn thing. It is not based on logic or reasoning. If douglxs haven’t read it already, then you can’t possibly like math enough to enjoy it. I thought it was only you up here! However, GEB showed that there exists formal systems in which the figure and ground are not recursive, do not carry the same weight, and are not complementary.

Retrieved 25 October Basically, the process involves reading and processing of symbols, writing it down, copying a symbol from one place to another, erasing the symbol, checking for sameness, and keeping a list of generated theorems.

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This should be part of a Marines-type training course for readers. I have listed here some of the points raised by the author that might have been dealt in a more rigorous way please note that this echer not aimed at conveying a negative impression on the overall quality of this otherwise great bookand also some points that I found particularly interesting and worth mentioning.


Please don’t tell me I gldel read a book on string theory, I’m trying to forget the whole sordid story.

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter

We humans, however, would soon realize that this is a hopeless situation and stop. And, one last time, it doesn’t matter. A theorem is an assertion of fact. If you think you’d be interested in the subject matter AND you wouldn’t mind hofstxdter simple word or math gldel in the service of understanding it AND the inner workings of a computer scientist’s marvelous brain seem interesting to you, then definitely read this book.

Aug 23, Jeffrey rated it it was amazing Shelves: A crab canon, as our musicologists will tell you, inverts and reverses the main theme of the canon. Jan 24, Mark Lawrence rated it it was amazing.

This is perhaps the criticism that’s most commonly leveled against the book: If a computer was told to try to generate the answer, it would go on ad infinitum. The issue is that the layers interceding between neural electrical firings ewcher human thought are tangled. This is just one case portraying the difficulty inherent in trying to define and understand intelligence and the connection between brain hardware and mind-thought.

A recursive set is one in which figure and ground holds equal importance. Casti, Nature “Every few decades an unknown author brings out a book of such depth, clarity, range, wit, beauty and originality that it is recognized at once as a major literary event. Like all good teachers, Hofstadter understands that the students who work things out on their own are the best prepared students.

Is it a difficult book? A frame message is implicit in the structure.

But enough about me. If life can grow out of the formal chemical substrate of the cell, if consciousness can emerge out of a formal system of firing neurons, then so too will computers attain human intelligence. Hofstadter quotes from an article in The New Yorkerin which two statements are made that, while possible, would constitute lunacy on the part of anyone who actually believed them. It was reissued as 20 year anniversary edition with a 23 page preface, but little update in the content of the book.


Godel, Escher, Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid

Interesting problems with meaning comes when translating words from one language to the next, especially fouglas literature and poetry, which often relies on implicit meaning to understand the content.

Is it hard going? The infinitude of the real numbers never ceases to blow me away. Both are worth reading, if dense as all hell, and both gave me hofsgadter really delightful epiphanies. Fiction does not simply come out of nowhere. Trust me on this.

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

In other words, an averagely intelligent citizen in an educated nation ought to have no great difficulty with this book. The reading of a book and its interpretation are determined in part by the cytoplasmic soup in which it is taken up.

A profound example is the genetic information in DNA. Hofstadter is the son of Nobel Prize-winning physicist Robert Hofstadter.

Castel Sant’ Angelo Nocturnal Rome: This allows a system to be interpreted in varying ways without losing important information. Should we point out obligatorily that DFW was not able to overcome metaphiction for very precise reasons?